November 14 2009, 19:40:23 #13 [1 Agree] [0 S] [1 T]
Wow, I never thought of it that way. When you say it 3 times, it makes it true!
November 15 2009, 17:29:17 #21 [1 Agree] [0 S] [0 T]
Obama: doesn't matter. Just like every other president of the U.S. They all just go with the flow of history, for better or worse.
November 21 2009, 00:42:26 #162 [0 Agree] [0 S] [1 T]
@21
That is a completely bullshit statement. What the fuck is the "flow of history" supposed to be.
November 21 2009, 06:23:45 #163 [2 Agree] [0 S] [0 T]
@162 you have some shitty argumentation skills. Hold judgement on saying it's "completely bullshit" if you have to ask "what the fuck" it is.
tl;dr: know what you're arguing against, asshole.
November 21 2009, 15:47:20 #186 [0 Agree] [0 S] [0 T]
@163
Firstly I direct my attention to his statement "Obama: Doesn't matter." Clearly bullshit. An individual with that much power has the opportunity to make huge changes on a global level and affect millions if not billions of lives. To say that he doesn't matter is in fact complete bullshit.
Second I direct my attention to the statement "Just like every other president of the U.S. They all just go with the flow of history, for better or worse." This follows in the same vein as the previous statement, implying that any one individual, even one with such power, will just go with the flow and not ever affect anything. I point out the absurdity of the concept of a "flow of history" in which everyone must follow. Though I cannot know for certain the poster's exact meaning for this phrase, it seems to indicate a sort of fate governing all historical events, which I would claim is absurd. One can always postulate on such matters, but as far as I know there is not any sort of proof for the idea of fate, especially since we live in a universe with a non-deterministic set of physical laws.
November 27 2009, 18:57:01 #273 [1 Agree] [0 S] [0 T]
@186
I have more faith in grassroots efforts than monolithic efforts, since most monolithic efforts (it seems to me) stem from the grassroots.
Thus, anything Obama is involved with is probably because it's been a brewing movement for some time (take environmental issues, healthcare, etc).
Second, the president has to work through a lot of bureaucracy. A lot of the bills he signs into law, he's not even read.
Third, anything big that Obama does change will probably be bad. Presidents tend toward increasing the power of the bureaucracy (giving more power to themselves or others).
This is what every president has done in our history. I have no reason to think that Obama will be better or worse than anyone else.